so who here has used the new browser from google called Chrome?
my first impressions are very positive - its very fast :party: so well done google i guess....
oh so in awstats or whatever what will it list it as? anyone know?
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so who here has used the new browser from google called Chrome?
my first impressions are very positive - its very fast :party: so well done google i guess....
oh so in awstats or whatever what will it list it as? anyone know?
I'm not super thrilled with the browser, as a user or developer. It's a little bit glitchy on one of my sites, and the SWF plugin doesn't seem to be very stable. It is nice to be able to regain RAM the instant you close a tab, unlike with FF, which just keeps gobbling. Most of the neat new features can be obtained using FF extensions, though, so I'm not moved to switch browsers.
I have the same issue with IE7 and tabs. It will eventually crash the browser if I let it run all day without restarting it. I hope they fix that in IE8, it is highly annoying.
In Chrome, each tab runs as a different process, unlike IE and FF. It really does make more sense. Unfortunately, no one has managed to minimize a browser's RAM footprint while 10 tabs are open.
10 tabs arent much of an issue for me. Its more like 500+ when it becomes a problem on my system.
The problem is in IE7 on this Vista system each tab consumes nearly a meg of ram and closing it does not free that meg up. Eventually I get to about 500-800 meg of ram being used since it never gets freed up when the tabs are closed. At this point the browser freaks out and needs to be killed off.
I open thousands of browser windows in a day I am sure of it now because in a typical day I will have to kill IE no less than 2 times from the task manager that I now keep in the task bar so that it is just handy. Slop on Microsoft's part for sure. Not so much the idea and coding, but slop from not testing and listening to their beta testers regarding the problem.
Oh and back to the OP, I think that Chrome has potential but it is definately not A grade yet. It definately has issues rendering pages that pass W3C code standards in the current state.
Wow. That's a lot of tabs, Matt. Are you serious? I've probably never hit 20...Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
And why do you use IE in the first place? You prefer it over FF?
Yeah, that's my experience, too. But to be fair, Google probably did a better job on this first beta release than Mozilla did for a long time with FF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
The Javascript really doesn't seem to work very well. No errors, no nothing. As a developer --- not impressed. No debugging tools? Why should I support it?
In fact, using the yahoo YUI (staple of the new cPanel) doesn't always work, which is supposed to support "class A" browsers.
lets all keep in mind its only a beta, and for a beta version its pretty good, i really like it but its probably not quite good enough for me to use yet - funny you cant install google tool bar on it aparently it isnt compatable yet or something. Also i use roboform quiet alot as i have membership to maybe 200 sites, chrome does not support it yet so no point in using it.
the thing i really really hate about IE is that when a website crashed your browser it just closes, you have no choice but to close everything down, you cant even save or book mark where you are up to in the tabs - i have lost heaps of stuff from IE doing this and find that i am constantly bookmarking sites so if IE crashes i dont have to sift through 500 pages of my history for that day to find where i was up to - IE frustrates me. But i am impressed with the first version of chrome - give it 6-12 months and it should be a great browser IMHO.
i would prefer a minimalistic browser - where i can add mods onto the browser if i want that feature. I gave firefox a go once but when it did an auto update i lost all my favourites so uninstalled it in anger and went back to IE lol.
Yeah, cornnfedd, you have a point, and maybe I need to look at what they are doing on the dev side of things. Just can't even see 6 or 12 months with some of the major goobers I saw. But then...
PS They wont support Roboform, unfortunately, Roboform needs to support chrome, which I guess is the better way to have it. I couldnt libve without that thing!
@cornnfedd: Not sure what version of FF you had trouble with, but now it backs up your bookmarks and all other personalizations automatically on a regular basis. The reasons I can't live without FF are all the web developer tools you can get as add-ons, including Web Developer Toolbar and FireBug. These things make building sites so much easier it's amazing. I don't know of comparable stuff for IE.
was probably 18 month ago at least that this happened - once bitten twice shy for me though! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bdominick
:movies:
i think google has the the far better work than any other company did when starting its own versions like IE or FF i didnt like d IE as when i open many tabs than its sometimes promt me to close it instantly without saving dats and likewise happens with me..but with crome i used to get all the things going on very well and had not get any difficulties in using this..i can say that its best version till date we have...!!
Its not bad for a first attempt! However as previously stated I also had real trouble with getting flash to install/work with it which ultimately meant it has been relegated to yet another browser to test sites on. Speed wise I think FF is faster although the electric might have been slow when i tested it.
Time will tell if FF has enough momentum without google backing it to be around in the long term.
what sites running flash wasnt it working properly with, as my sites all worked just as well with chrome?
Well, i personally agree that Google Chrome is VERY good for a beta, i love it and cant wait to see when it is released properly, i wrote a very long article on some of its features (XDnet.co.uk) and on the whole i like it is very good and when i look at the theory behind the tab structure and javascript engine it sounds amazing, but so far i have found that it seems to have an issue with flash video (youtube/iplayer) as it seems to lag and just be generally rubbish with it where as IE/FF is fine.
But as i said for a beta it has alot of good points and i cant wait to see later releases and what the other browsers decide to take and use in their own browsers.
Dan
i have now notived a few formatting issues in the way it handles some forms, other then that still all good.
Google will rule the world soon. I cannot say that it is bad....
Have you guys seen the new cell phone proposition?
@cornfed whats a notived?
As Kyle says - "When your brand name becomes a verb, you know you did something right."
haha lol sorry i should read what i post.
notived = noticed.
soz lol
maybe the next real war will be google versus microsoft....
They already did that when MS's head search programmer went to google. That was a few years back. Surprisingly, there is very little info on this on the net right now. Maybe Billy-boy paid google to remove any negative publicity. He's the only one I know that could afford that price tag.
I am using IE8 RC1 now and the whole crash thing seems to have been resolved in this release. It renders pages a little differently but it has "compatibility" mode on it which does a pretty good job of making pages that render strangely return to the way IR7 rendered them.
Other than that I don't see any noticeable bugs like 7 had and I've been running it for about a week or so.
I also really like the new color coded tabbed browsing and the address bar now shows the exact domain one is looking at which should really help out less advanced web users to identify the actual domain they are visiting and should help prevent phishing quite a bit.
Alright, after 2 weeks of running this browser I wish I never installed it. It is horribly buggy in one area which is, uh, important.
It no longer will crash your entire system when it consumes too much memory. What it does instead is won't load your start page. You fire up the browser and it just hangs...loading...indefinitely. Or you could be in the middle of a session and open a new tab and it will do the same thing.
I don't really like Firefox primarily because I dread configuring things, and, well it looks like I have no choice. I've made it my default browser for the time being as IE8 RC1 is completely un-usable in the current state. Hopefully they will have this fixed before it becomes a stable release.
IE will never be fixed. I am so sick of having to rework HTML for that crappy browser. IE7 has been much better than previous, but man did it take them a long time to come to their senses and stop trying to manipulate the entire Web to their cockeyed standardless ways. I don't think they'll ever get in line, just because they seem to enjoy making us working stiffs work that much harder to cater to their market dominance.
Chrome works fine for me on XP. I don't think I'll ever upgrade to Vista, so I'm happy for now. But I don't really like Chrome for heavy use. It's not nearly as useful to me as a developer/designer as FireFox is. I also use Opera and Safari from time to time. I use Chrome when I have no browser open and need to look at something quickly -- it gets up and running way way faster than FF. My biggest problem with FF is that all the addons I need and use daily cause it to be a massive RAM hog, and it freezes up for a couple minutes out of every hour or so.
So far, my ideal browser doesn't exist. If I could combine the way Chrome uses services and conserves RAM with Opera's straightforwardness/elegance and FF's extensibility, then I'd be in heavan...