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    Glowhost is showing up as allowing adult content on review sites. Is this true?

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    The Short Answer:
    Yes, we host all USA Legal "Adult" content.

    The Long Answer:
    I guess we'd need to know more about what you consider adult content to be, everyone and every culture has different ideas, and opinions on what "Adult" means.

    You would need to ask yourself, is the content that I am considering hosting at GlowHost LEGAL in the United States of America?

    If the answer to that question, is yes, it is legal in the United States, then as long as we are still guaranteed Freedom of Speech under the Constitution of the United States of America, GlowHost will allow you to publish it on the Internet.

    We are not police, judge, or jury. We are not psychiatrists, cult leaders, dictators, or members of a secret society that control the media.

    GlowHost publishes websites. GlowHost is not so dissimilar as the major publishing houses that you buy your paper-bound books from. We do not have ink-rollers and metal stamps though. Just computers.

    The Reasons (aside from the Constitution Of The united States Of America reason):

    For any others that find this thread, and may object to a web host that allows adult content, I'd like you to consider some facts about the service providers that every single one of us uses. Most, if not all countries that have a cell phone, TV, telephone, or Internet, subscribe to service providers that publish or make "Adult Content' readily available to anyone who requests it.

    The original poster poised the question that started this thread, using Comcast as their ISP. That means that the original poster pays this ISP for service, so that they can read and post questions on this forum.

    Comcast is one, if not the largest provider of cable television and Internet service in the USA. Comcast offers multiple adult options. Including hardcore porn. (subject to your opinion of hardcore, of course)

    You just have to call them up and ask for it to be activated on your account. If you don't believe me, pick up the phone and call your version of Comcast and ask them what "adult" options they have. The person on the other end of the horn is going to tell you in a friendly, non-judgmental voice, that they have several options.

    Whether you choose to expose yourself, is completely up to you.

    We all have TVs and we all pay someone to bring us the service, and those service providers allow adult content to run on their service.

    It is really no different with TV, Phone and Mobile companies. Every telephone company on the planet provides 900 numbers in some form or another, and we know what those are right? Yet we still pay our phone companies...

    Every cell phone company allows you to text some number combination to get "adult" wallpapers (and who knows what else) for your cell phone. But, we still pay our cell phone company...

    Back to the original point about books.

    I would venture to bet that most of us have purchased a book at some point in our lives that was published by a company that also published a different book, that some might consider to be objectionable. But we didn't see that book, because we were not looking for it.

    In other words, Readers Digest might just be published by the same company as Hustler. Did anybody check recently?

    I don't see why it is any different for a web host. Web hosts do not make the content, the site owner does. Web hosts are, in essence, a hybrid of a service provider, a utility and a publishing company.

    Most people shopping for a host that "does not allow adult content" generally do not consider these facts. The truth is, there is no such thing as a host that does not allow adult content.

    If a web host advertises that they do not host adult content, they are either lying to you, or they don't know that they are.

    It is completely impossible, even for the most anal (determined) host to police every hosted site. It is also impossible to prevent members of the general public from posting something questionable on a public site like this forum. Some of those people will post adult content.

    There are also considerations for hackers that may get on a site that is hosted by a host who does not allow "adult" hosting, yet that hacker may be hosting adult material on the hacked site. Thus, the host is hosting adult content, albeit unknowingly.

    Even if they do a fantastic job of keeping adult content off of their servers, don't have any web sites that allow members of the general public to interact with the site and leave comments or photos, there is a problem with that business model.... I don't know of one single "non-adult" hosting company on this planet that is a major shareholder in one of the very few major Telcos that we all use on a daily basis on the web.

    Web hosts do not own the Internet or Tier 1 networks in general, they lease them from a handful of providers (like AT&T who actually own the fiber) and every single one of those providers like AT&T allows "adult" content to pass through their network.

    There is no such thing as a host that is 100% buffered from adult content, no matter how hard the customer, or the provider would like to tell themselves that they are in an imaginary "safe zone."

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    I liked your short answer - it was most honest. The rest is justification and rationalization, to be quite blunt.

    I prefer not to host with a hosting provider that hosts adult content for many personal reasons. Here's my justification/rationalization as to why I choose to still host with gh...
    I receive the best service, I am able to provide the same for my clients.

    What I wish:
    I wish that gh didn't host adult content because from a business owner's perspective (leaving the personal behind) - I lump them all up in the same category as I do the spammers and email miners. I don't like receiving crap from sites/people I didn't subscribe to nor am interested in. And... if I could charge them for the time I take to remove their sh*t from my forums/emails/etc. I would.
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    The thing is though, if you really look at the spam and posts that wind up on the forums, it is increasingly rare that adult is what is making up the majority of the clutter. You'll notice that 99% of the crap that comes in is for pills, fake watches, cracked software, and all sorts of other things being peddled by non-legitimate businesses.

    I can't think of the last piece of junkmail that I received from an adult site but then I could just be lucky. I think adult webmasters have become more responsible over the years because they have realized spamming and "popup hell" are sure ways to get shut off by their web hosting provider and when that happens, they no longer make money from their sites.

    The real damage and detriment to the Internet is coming from the spammers, scammers, phishers, and online pharmacies out there. Unlike adult, the things I just listed is the stuff you don't have a choice about looking at because it winds up in your inbox every single day.
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    You have a good argument for sure with what has been ending up in my inbox (and my client's inbox) everyday.

    Professionally, it really is dependent on whether your willing to take their money, and where you draw the line. I'm glad GH will not allow the spamming like other hosts do and I am thankful that GH has the integrity it does when conducting business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlhanson View Post
    I prefer not to host with a hosting provider that hosts adult content for many personal reasons. Here's my justification/rationalization as to why I choose to still host with gh...
    I receive the best service, I am able to provide the same for my clients.
    Maybe you should also chop your customer's willies off, just for good measure.

    Naked ladies are here and will remain here. Your religion, fashionable clothes, oppinions and personal reasons will form and shatter a thousand times, along with everyone else's. Naked ladies will still be here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andreadoria View Post
    Maybe you should also chop your customer's willies off, just for good measure.
    LOL! They castrate horses, don't they?
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    Naked ladies are here and will remain here. Your religion, fashionable clothes, oppinions and personal reasons will form and shatter a thousand times, along with everyone else's. Naked ladies will still be here.
    You're absolutely right. I just wish they would stay where they are and out of my open source forums and subsequent keyword analysis - especially when I am performing a tutorial with a client and some very interesting phrases appear.

    I don't I feel the need to castrate men or horses to exercise my right to personal or professional preferences. But thanks for your input anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlhanson View Post
    You're absolutely right. I just wish they would stay where they are and out of my open source forums and subsequent keyword analysis
    I might not understand too much about keywords, but it would seem to me that if your forum is found by naked lady-related keywords, then it perforce must contain at least something naked-lady related.

    In which case, if ISP's actually applied your POV above, you'd be without a host.

    Altogether a very dazzling series of posts you've made so far.
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    While I don't exactly agree in the way which the argument was presented by andreadoria, it is certainly is an interesting concept.

    I am glad that we do not have to be the Internet Police for sites that allow public interaction because we would also have the be the Judge and Executioner when it came time for us to decide if something was "adult" in nature and I cannot imagine the blow-back we would get if we started arbitrarily shutting down peoples forums, blogs, etcetera that are non-adult by nature, but happen to have adult content on them by due to the interactions performed by members of the general public.

    As for John-Marc's horse comment, I don't see the what relevance it has on this thread.

    Lets keep it friendly boys and girls.
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