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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    As for John-Marc's horse comment, I don't see the what relevance it has on this thread.
    Well, I guess 1969 was a long before you were born.

    Just a reference to an old Jane Fonda movie

    They Shoot Horses, Don't They? (1969)

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    I don't think Fonda ever crossed the pond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andreadoria View Post
    Naked ladies are here and will remain here. Your religion, fashionable clothes, opinions and personal reasons will form and shatter a thousand times, along with everyone else's. Naked ladies will still be here.
    Your right, naked ladies are here and will remain here but that doesn't mean I agree like it. If GlowHost wants to host legal Adult Sites, I don' know if there is anything I can or should do because it may upset my personal moral values, and as rlhanson points out the superior service here, in my opinion outweighs any perceived harm from hosting with a company that may hosts Adult content.

    Plus, what if I decide to host a site that has content that is not Adult in nature but others find personally offensive? I don't see how I can claim my right to freedom of speech while trying to deny it to others.

    As a general statement, you have to seek out Adult content, i.e. type in a URL or put in key words in a search engine. In short, If you don't want to see it, don't look for it. Anyway, how can you tell if a particular hosting company is hosting Adult content?

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    This was my experince and the reason for my dislike of "porn" (not necessarily "adult") related sites:

    After installing phpBB2 on my site and a client's site, I had been inundated with pornographic posts (including images) throughout the forums (over 100 posts in a weeks time).

    I had to disable public registration for my client's tetsimonial and Q&A forum and add an anti-spam question to alleviate the issue. Also learned how to disable the member list from being viewable as I still had people trying to register (with admin approval) who put all types of links in their sign-up process.

    It just doesn't give a real professional impression for businesses. Agree?

    I might not understand too much about keywords, but it would seem to me that if your forum is found by naked lady-related keywords, then it perforce must contain at least something naked-lady related.
    When you submit a site to Google's webmaster tools, it analyzes and reports what keywords or keyword phrases were used to find your site.

    I had keyword phrases including "blowjob"; "teen p***y", "milf", etc. When I researched how they could possibly be related to my business site - well, that's when I found the posts.


    I am glad that we do not have to be the Internet Police for sites that allow public interaction because we would also have the be the Judge and Executioner when it came time for us to decide if something was "adult" in nature and I cannot imagine the blow-back we would get if we started arbitrarily shutting down peoples forums, blogs, etcetera that are non-adult by nature, but happen to have adult content on them by due to the interactions performed by members of the general public.
    Which is exactly why when a client requests a forum I explain that moderation is a requirement and solely my client's responsibility. I don't have the time to moderate client's forums everyday so it's a service I would either have to outsource or not offer it.

    I am very focused on being diplomatic, professional, and "friendly". I just had some experiences - professionally - that sours my opinion of adult sites. I've stated some personal observations and opinions - which I will avoid in the future in this particular setting - but which I am not ashamed of or regret. They are just based on my personal beliefs and advocacy experiences I "personally" have engaged in.

    I am not here to reveal my own personal preferences or experiences in the entertainment aspect of adult sites - but merely have some preferences.
    It was my intention to share why adult related sites, again from my own experience, can be detrimental to "my" reputation - as a professional.

    I can also share that I have gained a few hosting customers because I do avoid hosting adult related sites. But I am operating in the midwest. lol


    As a general statement, you have to seek out Adult content, i.e. type in a URL or put in key words in a search engine. In short, If you don't want to see it, don't look for it.
    QHF - thanks for the response - and as you can see from the experience I described above - that wasn't the case.

    Now the thing that really stinks is I know it is my lack of programming knowledge that allowed the "porn" to actually end up on the forums in the first place - so to sum it up:
    I wish there wasn't some adult sites so I don't have to learn to program around some of their tactics. I do apologize for lumping all adult content, spammers, and email miners into one basket, so to speak - I really try not to have broad all-inclusive opinions.

    btw - John-Marc - you had me rolling with the horse comment! But I guess no one can hear my inflection when words are typed....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlhanson View Post
    I am very focused on being diplomatic, professional, and "friendly".
    When I asked everyone to be friends, it wasn't aimed at you. I saw the potential for a flame war and I like everyone in this thread so I didn't want my friends to be enemies amongst themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by rlhanson View Post
    I can also share that I have gained a few hosting customers because I do avoid hosting adult related sites. But I am operating in the midwest. lol
    Really? How so? Did you market that fact or did they ask you directly?

    Quote Originally Posted by rlhanson View Post
    I've stated some personal observations and opinions - which I will avoid in the future in this particular setting
    Oh puhleeeeese. Why? Thats what these boards are here for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlhanson View Post
    Now the thing that really stinks is I know it is my lack of programming knowledge that allowed the "porn" to actually end up on the forums in the first place - so to sum it up:

    I wish there wasn't some adult sites so I don't have to learn to program around some of their tactics. I do apologize for lumping all adult content, spammers, and email miners into one basket, so to speak - I really try not to have broad all-inclusive opinions.
    That's a lot easier on the eye

    I've had the problem myself, on any and all forums I ever ran, be it phpbb or not.

    I find there's two practical ways to stop spammers (and I mean, 100% or very close) :

    Pageflow and timing. Most spammers go directly to a submit url with a post request. You can verify if the hostaddr making the request has in fact been at the page where the request would normally originate for a human filling a form (usually by passing a token along with the request), and how long ago, then simply redirect to root all requests that either haven't, or else filled the form in 1 second.

    Customization : Add a filed that defaults to a value, with verbiage requiring users to change it. For instance, make an entry with the caption "Three kings and two queens makes a " and default it to "three pair". Then ditch all requests passing the variable as "three pair" or null. This works because while it's plain obvious to human what to do, it's too much work for spammers to include custom code just to spam your one forum. In a sense, beating them at their own by-the-numbers game.
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    When I asked everyone to be friends, it wasn't aimed at you. I saw the potential for a flame war and I like everyone in this thread so I didn't want my friends to be enemies amongst themselves.
    lol. I saw the potential also! I didn't think it was directed at me...
    Really? How so? Did you market that fact or did they ask you directly?
    I was asked directly.

    Oh puhleeeeese. Why? Thats what these boards are here for.
    uh-uh.... personal beliefs - I try to keep my "religion" and my "political" views away from public speculation - geez... you saw a potential for a flame war right? lol

    I figure if anyone wants to ask something or debate about my beliefs, what personal entertainment I prefer, or my views on war... well, pm would be a better solution don't you think? lol

    Andreadoria - thanks for the response! I need to figure out or ask how to do what you suggested. btw - I think you and I could have a good debate sometime! Ireally enjoy a good debate and my hubby's not around to test to the limits! lol
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    Default adult content is a general no no!

    the web have already been flooded with this stuff and it is rampant and destructing specially for the minors your hosting company should not cater websites that has explicit contents. it is intolerable. But quite honestly adult content must be contained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gael View Post
    the web have already been flooded with this stuff
    Sort of like how the the web has already been flooded with forum spammers. The ones that like to put anchor text links in their signatures.

    I have removed your signature. If you would like to add it back, you can PM me and I will send you the forum guidelines for signature links.
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